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I've been watching Return of the King this weekend and thinking about Boromir. When Aragorn stands in front of the Black Gate and says "for Frodo" the unspoken coda is "because of Boromir." Watching the defense of Minas Tirith made me really claustrophobic, thinking about the crushing responsibilities that Boromir had to deal with all his life. Small wonder that he couldn't think straight regarding the ring. He was so desperate to save his people against such overwhelming odds. Aragorn certainly made sacrifices during those lonely, dangerous years as a ranger, but I think "his people" were more an abstraction to him than a reality, and an unwanted burden. Boromir modeled a genuinely kingly sense of responsibility toward and love for the people of Gondor that helped push Aragorn onto the right road.

I don't think Boromir gets enough credit! I think Peter Jackson could have spared 15 seconds so that at least one of the characters could have remembered him at the end!

Harumph! ;)

Boromir

Date: 2005-11-28 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jojos-s-v.livejournal.com
"I don't think Boromir gets enough credit! I think Peter Jackson could have spared 15 seconds so that at least one of the characters could have remembered him at the end!"

I agree 200% with you. I cried when i saw him get killed,sad.

Date: 2005-11-28 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danichatterley.livejournal.com
"I think Peter Jackson could have spared 15 seconds so that at least one of the characters could have remembered him at the end!"

I second that!
Looks like everybody forget about him with the passing of time, and when the end came nobody - not even Faramir - remembered him. WTF??

Date: 2005-11-28 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captn-of-gondor.livejournal.com
*sits in silence, head bowed*

Gondor, the safety of her people and the protection of Middle Earth are all that really mattered, however it was achieved.

Date: 2005-11-28 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenolas.livejournal.com
Yes I agree Boromir deserves to be remembered for being so mmuch more than one who was seduced by the ring.


jenolas, very much a fan of the elder son of the Steward.

SSP: I wrote a rather long story from Bormoir's POV as he writes in a journal for Faramir. "The Last Word" is not slash in any way, as close to book canon as possible and can be found at fanfiction.net if anyone's interested.


Date: 2005-11-29 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bean4me.livejournal.com
I'm interested. I just tried checking the site but couldn't find it though.

Date: 2005-11-29 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenolas.livejournal.com
The url is:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2296712/1/


enjoy!

Date: 2005-11-28 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illwynd.livejournal.com
He was so desperate to save his people against such overwhelming odds.

Amen to that! And yeah, he never gets enough credit, never gets remembered... Oh gosh... *mourns*

Date: 2005-11-28 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanathecat.livejournal.com
Very eloquent essay about Boromir and these parts of writing made me moved to tears:

"Aragorn certainly made sacrifices during those lonely, dangerous years as a ranger, but I think "his people" were more an abstraction to him than a reality, and an unwanted burden."

And this one:

"Boromir modeled a genuinely kingly sense of responsibility toward and love for the people of Gondor that helped push Aragorn onto the right road."

It's been a long time since I watched ROTK and the other films of the LOTR trilogy, but your essay casted back my mind to the bitter memories of Boromir and his fellowship... Still every film is vivid in my mind, I feel tempted to watch them a whole lot again.

And I second that Boromir didn't get enough credit!
Reluctantly I have to admit that in my country many people get Boromir wrong as the villain or vulnerable person who easily fall into the darkside. *sigh*

I think it's due to that J.R.R.Tolkien is a famous but not the general-interest author among us (I mean he's not the major or common writer with every people) until the films were released, and even after that not many people read the LOTR novels for its big volume of the story, though there are surely not a few enthusiastic fans of both the novels and films, like me. :)

Hope many film fans of the LOTR realize that Boromir is a candid and brave noble man. (...And hope my English makes sense...)

Date: 2005-11-28 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fawsley.livejournal.com
At least in the film Aragorn did take and always wear Boromir's vambraces. And he does have them on at the Black Gate, so there is an unspoken salute to his fallen comrade. I like the way that nobody in the film actually ever comments on the vambraces, but they're there if you look carefully so Boromir is also there.

Gimme a tragic hero any day!

:Boromir! Over here! NOW!:

Date: 2005-11-28 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rotpunkt.livejournal.com
Absolutely right!
"Aragorn certainly made sacrifices during those lonely, dangerous years as a ranger, but I think "his people" were more an abstraction to him than a reality, and an unwanted burden."
With exactly this thought in mind I wrote my first slash story "Power Struggle", where Viggo and Sean discuss this point - and Sean says both Tolkien and the movie are not fair towards Boromir!
Nice to see there are more who think like this...!

Date: 2005-11-28 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree with you on most points save one. That is the point that Aragorn saw "his people [as] more an abstraction to him than a reality, and an unwanted burden." I disagree with you here due to something that is written in the appendixes of LOTR regarding Aragorn. He spent approximately 20 years ( I am not sure of the exact number of years, I would have to look it up again) serving first Rohan then Gondor in disguise. That is where his statement to Boromir in Lothorian that "I have seen the White City, long ago." comes from. He was know as Throngil, "the Eagle of the Star" and he was a great captain of Gondor under Echthalion, Denethor's father. That is one reason why Denethor was so against Aragorn's return. He suspected who Aragorn was during his time in Gondor and saw him as a rival. It was jealousy as well as a refusal to relinquish power that had him deny Aragorn.

If you want to know more I recommend reading the appendixes. They give you all sorts of back story goodies.

Kat

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